硅谷也想996,美国对中国的焦虑揭示了什么?
Early this year, after DeepSeek emerged, the US and Silicon Valley were filled with talk about how amazing China is. Silicon Valley's view of Chinese technology has shifted from pure contempt and vigilance to envy, jealousy, and curiosity. This episode's guest, Afra, used to work in Silicon Valley and now writes a Substack Newsletter called Concurrent, focusing on the technological and cultural ecosystems of China and the United States. In this episode, we are not seeking answers to US-China competition. How did Afra perceive the phenomenon of "China anxiety" in Silicon Valley? When Silicon Valley's tech elites express envy, what are they envious of? Does this envy overestimate China's technological breakthroughs and the contradiction of mismatched needs? What does the shift in Silicon Valley's attitude toward China's technological development indicate? Why do American elites feel lost? When Silicon Valley starts learning China's 996 work system, what should be guarded against? We also discussed the differences between the AI ecosystems of China and the United States, and some recent books and arguments about US-China competition popular in Silicon Valley and the United States. **Timeline:** 02:21 How did Silicon Valley's "China anxiety" arise? 06:56 Why hasn't there been widespread envy of China before? 08:38 When Silicon Valley engineers say they envy China, what are they envious of? 12:47 "China copies" and "China wins big," why are polarized narratives so marketable in the United States? 19:11 The great disappointment of American intellectual elites: things invented in the United States are widely used in China 20:21 How do different emphases on idealism and industrial implementation affect the technological development paths of China and the United States? 23:32 Has the United States realized how big the "iceberg under the water" is? 28:17 How to understand China's AI large models choosing open source, while most of the US AI large models are closed source? 32:57 Is the United States overestimating the contradiction between China's technological breakthroughs and mismatched needs due to insufficient domestic demand, unemployment, dependence on subsidies, and overcapacity? 38:54 Does Silicon Valley really envy the Chinese government's strong resource allocation capabilities? 42:30 Can the saying of "rule of lawyers" and "rule of engineers" explain the competitive situation between China and the United States? 45:37 Silicon Valley starts learning China's 996 work system, "Silicon Valley learns bad things from the very beginning!" 47:47 Why would a group of people who least want the government to interfere envy China's totalitarian governance model? 51:41 If Afra could rewrite the narrative about China to help American readers understand China, how would she do it? Guest recommendations: Dan Wang《Breakneck》 Mo Leining《Chinese Typewriter》 Kerry Brown《China Through European Eyes》 Related Links: Concurrent: https://afraw.substack.com EP-166 Xu Chenggang: US-China Technology Competition, Will China Win? EP-155 Li Houchen: Why Can't the "New Three" and AI Save the Chinese Economy? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Original title: 硅谷也要996,美国的“中国焦虑”揭示了什么?
Original description: <p>今年年初,DeepSeek横空出世之后,美国和硅谷充满了关于中国如何厉害的言论。硅谷对中国科技的看法从单纯的看不起和戒备,转向羡慕、嫉妒和好奇。本期节目的嘉宾Afra曾在硅谷工作,现在写一个S…