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-Introduction- Urban history scholar Meng Hao, after studying old-fashioned public bathhouses in Shanghai, delved into the urban history of his hometown, Guiyang. In addition to studying how Yang Sen, a powerful figure in southwestern China during the late Anti-Japanese War, built "New Guizhou," he also focused on national sports and public life in Guiyang. When a warlord with a Gēlahui background governed the city, how did Yang Sen "military train" all the citizens of Guiyang? Tracing the origins of Guizhou's "Village Super League," how did the construction of the rear area during the Anti-Japanese War give rise to a wave of sports enthusiasm? Holding a "travel guide," what ways could travelers reach Guiyang during the Anti-Japanese War? Listen to the wonderful sharing from this episode's guest, Meng Hao! -Guests- Cheng Yanliang (Weibo @GrenadierGuard2) Meng Hao, Urban History Scholar -Timeline- 01:46 From studying public bathhouses in Shanghai during the Republic of China to studying the urban history of Guiyang 05:42 The disastrous defeats in Henan, Hunan, and Guangxi led to the military man Yang Sen governing Guizhou 07:41 "To manage Yunnan, one must first pass through Guizhou" 10:39 Connecting rivers and reaching the sea: Zhou Xicheng, an "enlightened warlord,"'s dream of Guizhou transportation 13:30 Joint suppression by highways, unifying the southwest, and strategic hinterland: Chiang Kai-shek's triple motivation for building roads in the southwest 19:03 The "Sunday Soccer Games" of the Republic of China, inherited from the "Village Super League" 27:34 Short clothes, getting up early, and revival exercises: Yang Sen's "New Guizhou" concept of disciplining the people 35:08 Ordinary people hiring others to do exercises: Guiyang citizens' "daily resistance" and the "Down with Yang Movement" 39:26 Guiyang as a wartime "transit city," the hotel industry flourished 46:35 The wartime "travel guide": How does a "traveler" go to Guiyang? 52:17 Unlike now, old Guizhou cuisine was very frugal with salt 55:28 After the feast is over, local officials gradually return to the "mediocre" urban imagination -Production Team- Sound Design hotair Program Coordinator He Fang Program Operation Xiaomili Program Production hualun Si Zhao Yo Logo Design Yang Wenji -Music- Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod -This program is produced by JustPod © 2025 Shanghai Hulu Network Technology Co., Ltd.- -Interaction- Business Cooperation: [email protected] Weibo: @忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod WeChat Official Account: 忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下 Xiaohongshu: JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右 Bilibili: 忽左忽右leftright Douyin: 忽左忽右

- 导语 -城市史研究学者孟浩，从研究上海旧式公共澡堂，转而深入故乡贵阳的城市史，除了研究抗战晚期西南强人杨森如何建设“新贵州”，他也聚焦于贵阳市的国民体育、公共生活。当一位袍哥背景的军阀治理城市，杨森怎样“军训”全体贵阳市民？追溯贵州“村超”的渊源，抗战大后方的建设如何催生了一阵体育热潮？手握一本“旅行指南”，抗战时期的旅行者们又有哪些途径可以抵达贵阳？请听本期嘉宾孟浩带来的精彩分享！- 本期话题成员 -程衍樑（微博@GrenadierGuard2）孟浩，城市史研究学者- 时间轴 -01:46 从民国上海的公共澡堂转向研究贵阳城市史05:42 豫湘桂大溃败，军人杨森主政贵州07:41 「欲经略云南，必先经过贵州」10:39 通江达海：「开明军阀」周西成的贵州交通梦13:30 公路协剿、统一西南与战略腹地：蒋介石在西南修路的三重动力19:03 与「村超」一脉相承的民国「星期球赛」27:34 短衣、早起和复兴操：杨森「新贵州」理念对民众的规训35:08 老百姓雇人做操：贵阳市民的「日常反抗」与「倒杨运动」39:26 贵阳作为战时「过路城市」，旅馆业繁荣46:35 战时的「旅行指南」：一位「旅客」如何去贵阳？52:17 与现在不同，老贵州菜非常节约盐55:28 盛宴散去，地方要员逐渐回归「平庸」的城市想象- 制作团队 -声音设计 hotair节目统筹 禾放节目运营 小米粒节目制作 hualun 思钊 Yologo设计 杨文骥- 音乐 -Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod- 本节目由JustPod出品 © 2025 上海斛律网络科技有限公司 -- 互动方式 -商务合作：[email protected]微博：@忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod微信公众号：忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下小红书：JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右B站：忽左忽右leftright抖音：忽左忽右

聊天的人 Phil Chang（小红书ID：@Phil Chang） 辛炯官（中国资本市场研究所 首席执行官、前 未来益财投资管理（上海）有限公司 董事长、白玉兰纪念奖获得者，YouTube：신형관의 상하이클래스） -时间轴- 01:12 九十年代到中国成为三星世界地域专家 16:40 在两千年代初负责三星进入中国资本市场 19:50 从0到1带领未来资产拿到亚洲第二张QFII牌照 32:18 影响韩国投资人对华投资意向的一些因素 39:29 看不清摸不着是海外投资者的第一号头疼大事 45:50 为什么5%的GDP增长普通人感受不到？ 51:08 宏观GDP增速与投资无直接关联性 61:08 西方经济学为什么看不懂中国经济？ 64:47 中国经济有100个问题，更有101个解决法 72:34 创二代公司存续的概率只有30% 77:38 为什么对中国经济保持中性偏乐观？ 82:35 中韩在未来到底应该怎么合作？ 89:43 房地产走下坡路不一定是坏事 92:25 用平衡客观的心态看中美博弈 -背景资料- 2020年，辛炯官代表获得上海市“白玉兰纪念奖” 辛炯官代表在2020年”白玉兰纪念奖“获奖者名录前留影 2021年，辛炯官代表作为外籍友人代表接受建党百年上海市人民政府新闻办公室和新民晚报的采访（图片来源：新民视频） 《百年大党·老外讲故事》中的辛炯官代表（图片来源：新民视频） 位于陆家嘴的未来资产大厦 MIRAE ASSET TOWER（图片来源：新民视频） 上海地铁二号线的屏幕中播放的媒体对辛炯官代表的采访 2023年，第四届中韩日资产管理高峰论坛发言的辛炯官代表 2025年，在the bell CHINA conference 发表讲话的辛炯官代表 2025年，辛炯官代表在杭州六小龙之一云深处科技考察 2025年，辛炯官代表在小米公司调研 2025年，辛炯官代表在世界机器人大会现场调研 2025年，辛炯官代表在北京机器人半马现场调研 -剪辑- Phil Chang -出品·制作- Phil Chang -听友群- 二维码过期时请查看最新一期正文三台下方二维码是否为最新，或者私信Phil Chang的小红书或抖音（ID：Phil Chang）添加听友群 *本节目欢迎更多有趣优质内容，有相关经历且有兴趣的朋友可以加听友群联系Phil Chang，《正文三台》期待各位的分享！

- 导语 -十九世纪初，一位来自普鲁士的古怪传教士抵达天津。他精通闽南语，为英国政府和东印度公司工作。他被贴上诸多标签：翻译、医生、地方长官、鸦片商人、“汉奸”……百年后，学者李骛哲在档案中发现了郭实猎的更多面向，以及那段被忽视的“开放中国”的故事。晚清传教士为何与鸦片商人产生联系？历史学家如何分析郭实猎偏执性格的养成？他与太平天国运动又有何关系？不同文明的初次相遇会产生哪些荒诞想象？请听本期嘉宾李骛哲的精彩分享！- 本期话题成员 -程衍樑（微博@GrenadierGuard2）李骛哲，复旦大学历史学博士、德国图宾根大学博士后，主要研究晚清政治史、近代中外关系史。现为中山大学“百人计划”副教授。《郭实猎与“开放中国”》作者。- 时间轴 -03:30 非同寻常的奇怪传教士13:50 懂闽南语、进华人族谱：郭实猎如何进入中国15:22 东印度公司退场与散商鸦片贸易泛滥22:40 郭实猎突破海禁的中国游记在欧洲引起轰动29:03 舆论制造者：唯一深度参与鸦片战争的新教传教士40:53 19世纪西方来华传教士的阶级变化43:04 拜伦之死开启轰轰烈烈的浪漫时代49:20 沿海军官怒斥郭实猎「汉奸」59:41 第一个华人内地会「汉会」的争议01:03:44 郭实猎如何批评洪秀全01:11:08 马克思通过郭实猎的讲座了解中国- 制作团队 -声音设计 hotair节目统筹 禾放节目运营 小米粒节目制作 hualun 思钊 Yologo设计 杨文骥- 音乐 -Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod- 本节目由JustPod出品 © 2025 上海斛律网络科技有限公司 -- 互动方式 -商务合作：[email protected]微博：@忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod微信公众号：忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下小红书：JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右B站：忽左忽右leftright抖音：忽左忽右

-Intro- In the early 19th century, a peculiar Prussian missionary arrived in Tianjin. Fluent in Hokkien, he worked for the British government and the East India Company. He was labeled as many things: translator, doctor, local official, opium merchant, "traitor"... A century later, scholar Li Wuzhe discovered more facets of Karl Gützlaff in the archives, and the neglected story of "opening China." Why were late Qing missionaries associated with opium merchants? How do historians analyze the formation of Gützlaff's eccentric personality? What was his relationship with the Taiping Rebellion? What absurd imaginations arise from the first encounters of different civilizations? Listen to the wonderful sharing of this episode's guest, Li Wuzhe! -This Episode's Participants- Cheng Yanliang (Weibo @GrenadierGuard2) Li Wuzhe, PhD in History from Fudan University, postdoctoral fellow at the University of Tübingen, Germany, mainly studies late Qing political history and modern Chinese-foreign relations history. He is currently an associate professor of the "Hundred Talents Program" at Sun Yat-sen University. Author of "Karl Gützlaff and 'Opening China'." -Timeline- 03:30 An Unusual and Strange Missionary 13:50 Understanding Hokkien, Entering Chinese Genealogies: How Karl Gützlaff Entered China 15:22 The East India Company's Exit and the Proliferation of Private Opium Trade 22:40 Karl Gützlaff's Travelogue of China, Breaking Through the Sea Ban, Caused a Sensation in Europe 29:03 Opinion Maker: The Only Protestant Missionary Deeply Involved in the Opium War 40:53 Class Changes of Western Missionaries Coming to China in the 19th Century 43:04 Byron's Death Opened the Magnificent Romantic Era 49:20 Coastal Military Officers Denounced Karl Gützlaff as a "Traitor" 59:41 Controversy over the First Chinese Inland Mission "Han Society" 01:03:44 How Karl Gützlaff Criticized Hong Xiuquan 01:11:08 Marx Learned About China Through Karl Gützlaff's Lectures -Production Team- Sound Design hotair Program Coordinator He Fang Program Operations Xiaomi Li Program Production hualun Si Zhao Yo Logo Design Yang Wenji -Music- Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod -This program is produced by JustPod © 2025 Shanghai Hulu Network Technology Co., Ltd.- -Interaction Methods- Business Cooperation: [email protected] Weibo: @忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod WeChat Official Account: 忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下 Xiaohongshu: JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右 Bilibili: 忽左忽右leftright Douyin: 忽左忽右

This episode doesn't have grand narratives; it's quite casual. The guest is Meng Qiu, founding partner of Qingliu Capital and former Technology VP of Baidu. Longtime listeners of "Business Interview" may know that Meng Qiu basically returns every year to catch up on the current venture capital climate and her own life. In the wolf-culture-dominated Chinese investor circle, Meng Qiu has always been very Buddhist and Taoist. This episode is even more relaxed. She frankly says that work is quite boring, so after discussing serious topics, we also talked about reading, travel, movies, and girls' chattering. (This episode was recorded at the end of April) Our podcast program is first launched on Tencent News. You can go and follow us to get the program information and more news as soon as possible :) 02:00 Has the capital winter of 2025 passed? No… 04:00 Has the emergence of DeepSeek made AI application entrepreneurship more active? No… 10:45 Current experience of various Bots: fortune teller? Simp? Especially commenting on WeChat, Yuanbao, and Xiaohongshu 25:28 Discuss how to make Agent in WeChat? Is a universal Agent established? 31:25 Entrepreneurial opportunities and entrepreneurs for vertical Agents 35:52 Current organizations tend to be small, which may benefit young entrepreneurs 37:42 Why are organizations smaller, but the amount of financing is higher? 38:18 In addition to Agent, what I am also looking at is embodied intelligence (simulators are very important) 43:57 Wearable devices 54:54 Large model companies 58:31 Work has been very boring in the past two years, my travel journey 01:03:55 My reading journey 01:12:34 Talking about the film and television industry (Meng Qiu is an independent director of China Film), "Good Things" and feminism Meng Qiu's previous programs: "1. Chatting with investor Meng Qiu about California, the investment cold wave, and Lin Daiyu" "21. Large models and the real market temperature from the perspective of investors｜Chatting with Meng Qiu about ChatGPT" "65. Has the key to venture capital failed? Chatting with Meng Qiu: Hibernation, a game with fewer people, and rodents" 【More Information】 Contact us: Weibo @张小珺-Benita For more information, please follow the official account: 张小珺

Since the 1980s, over 800 million Chinese people have been lifted out of poverty. Hundreds of millions have moved from rural areas to cities, and tens of millions have become the first college students in their families. For many, it was an era full of opportunities for upward mobility. However, in recent years, with the economic slowdown, this channel for upward mobility has become increasingly narrow. We asked our listeners to submit stories of "feeling anxious about class solidification." In the previous episode, we heard two middle-aged people share how their lives struggled with the ups and downs of the economic situation. The three narrators in this episode are all born in the 90s. Boris saved money after working for 6 years to study for a postgraduate degree in Hong Kong. He wanted to get rid of the regret of his first academic qualification, but found that he had to face a more difficult employment environment than when he graduated from undergraduate. Liang, a student studying for a doctorate in Japan, calls himself an extreme case of social mobility. Josh, who graduated from a 211 university, like many young people, feels confused about his major, work, and future. What are their stories? How did the "small-town exam takers" who once firmly believed in "education changes destiny" reinterpret this sentence in the process of growing up? How do they view their situation? How to redefine "effort" and "hope"? We also have to think about where society will go if a generation of young people lose hope for the future? In addition, almost all of the letters collected this time came from male listeners. In the future, we look forward to hearing more voices from women. Text version: [https://bit.ly/bmb-157-text](https://bit.ly/bmb-157-text) **Timeline:** 02:09 Boris's self-introduction: Graduated in 2016, went to Hong Kong for postgraduate studies after working for 6 years 02:27 Comparison of the job search environment faced by the two graduations 07:31 339 resumes were sent out, with a response rate of 13% 08:13 Encountered absurd questions in the interview: academic discrimination, family background questioning 09:11 The job search period lasted 9 months, and both money and confidence suffered a double blow 11:31 Boris, as the child of laid-off workers, worked part-time at university 13:28 Mom canceled the school's text message notification to save 3 yuan 18:59 Motivation to move up: verbal stimulation from relatives, self-esteem, disappointment with vocational education 23:24 Believes he has benefited from gender and economic dividends, pessimistic about the future 27:45 Liang: "If you want to know where the limit of small-town exam takers is" 28:02 Born in a western state-owned enterprise family, felt increasingly strong class gap from elementary school to university 32:52 Entering university, the biggest challenge is "not knowing what to do" 35:22 Feels obvious unfairness, but is very proud of his achievements 36:58 Tutoring, distributing flyers, "doing whatever he can", graduated from university and saved money to go to Japan 39:54 Received an offer from Columbia University, was scared off by the high tuition fees, and chose to stay in Japan 41:25 Considers himself an extreme case of social mobility, and hardly contacts his elementary school classmates anymore 42:46 Self-taught Japanese, extremely low consumption, living an ascetic life 44:09 Future choice to stay in Japan 46:24 Josh: Born in a rural area in the south, his parents are migrant workers, and he started participating in family labor in childhood 48:01 Disappointment after going to university: utilitarian atmosphere, dislike of major 48:53 The first job only lasted half a year, resigned to take the postgraduate entrance examination 50:42 Father tried to spend money to ask for favors to find him a job 52:05 Spent 20,000 yuan to sign up for a re-employment training class 54:13 Found a new job, but resigned again soon due to "high pressure" 01:02:16 Started feeling the gap from student days, high school classmates had early access to the external network and learned programming 01:03:22 Being a civil servant, doing business, joining a big company, it is difficult to turn over no matter what you do 01:05:54 Josh's imagination of the future: unwilling to marry and have children in the future Related links: [https://bumingbai.net/2025/06/22/ep-156-jiecengguhua/](https://bumingbai.net/2025/06/22/ep-156-jiecengguhua/) [https://bumingbai.net/2024/09/28/ep-115-jiuye/](https://bumingbai.net/2024/09/28/ep-115-jiuye/) Hosted on Acast. See [acast.com/privacy](https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.

- 导语 -意大利人老安，自20世纪80年代来到中国，至今已在此生活四十余年。他的足迹从香港、北京延伸至青海、甘肃等地，一路走来，他始终用镜头记录下所见所感。作为一位异域 “观察者”，老安对中国的发展有着独特的视角。九十年代，外国人如何融入北京文艺圈？改革开放初期，旅途中的轶事又为老安带来怎样的体验？在时代飞速发展的四十多年里，中国在他眼中留下了什么，又改变了什么？请听本期嘉宾老安带来的精彩分享！- 本期话题成员 -程衍樑（微博@GrenadierGuard2）老安，本名安德烈·卡瓦祖蒂（Andrea Cavazzuti），意大利图片及视频摄影家，出版有摄影集《稍息：1981—1984年的中国》和随笔集《气呼呼的小词典》。- 时间轴 -01:18 老安拍摄了王小波生前唯一的访谈影像05:58 听说老安学中文，「极左叔叔」痛斥「修正主义」08:17 选择学中文：「中国这么大一块地方，却完全陌生」14:46 从兴奋、不习惯再到想念：外国人来华的不同阶段19:06 混沌年代混入三亚的奇遇21:57 「香港像一个微型的地球」27:23 在上海丢相机登上《解放日报》31:31 外国人在改革开放初期的巨大优势37:54 关于92年申奥的记忆：一场电视转播乌龙41:50 老腔、傩戏与传统文化的消散46:09 西方嬉皮士与北京顽主「不太一样」49:57 老安眼中的北京：「什么都太和谐了」51:18 90年代东单公园的市民群像54:07 虚拟与现实、过去与现在：公路旅行的拍摄畅想- 特别策划 -从2005年到2025年，播客从 iTunes 到现在遍地开花，我们和Apple 播客一起见证了播客的20周年。Apple 播客是《忽左忽右》的原初之地，欢迎大家在Apple 播客 App 和网页端，查看Apple 播客推出的20年特别策划，有更多创作者们的故事与洞察，和编辑精选的节目清单。也欢迎在 Apple 播客 关注我们的节目，在节目页面右上角点击“关注”，就可以即时收到我们的节目更新。另外，6月28日（周六下午三点），程衍樑会在Apple上海环贸iapm店的TodayatApple活动上进行一个线下分享，除了本台的背后创作故事以外，还有录音、创作的制胜秘籍与从未释出的节目花絮分享，欢迎上海的听众朋友前来参与！- 制作团队 -声音设计 hotair节目统筹 禾放节目运营 小米粒节目制作 hualun 思钊 Yologo设计 杨文骥- 音乐 -Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod- 本节目由JustPod出品 © 2025 上海斛律网络科技有限公司 -- 互动方式 -商务合作：[email protected]微博：@忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod微信公众号：忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下小红书：JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右B站：忽左忽右leftright抖音：忽左忽右

-Intro- Old An, an Italian, came to China in the 1980s and has lived here for more than 40 years. His footprints extend from Hong Kong and Beijing to Qinghai and Gansu. Along the way, he has always used his camera to record what he sees and feels. As a foreign "observer", Old An has a unique perspective on China's development. In the 1990s, how did foreigners integrate into Beijing's literary and artistic circles? In the early days of reform and opening up, what experiences did the anecdotes on the journey bring to Old An? In the more than 40 years of rapid development, what has China left in his eyes, and what has changed? Please listen to the wonderful sharing from our guest, Old An! -This Episode's Participants- Cheng Yanliang (Weibo @GrenadierGuard2) Old An, real name Andrea Cavazzuti, Italian photographer and videographer, has published the photo collection "Stand at Ease: China 1981-1984" and the essay collection "Grumpy Little Dictionary". -Timeline- 01:18 Old An filmed the only interview footage of Wang Xiaobo before his death 05:58 Hearing that Old An was learning Chinese, a "ultra-left uncle" denounced "revisionism" 08:17 Choosing to learn Chinese: "China is such a big place, yet completely unfamiliar" 14:46 From excitement, unaccustomedness to missing: different stages of foreigners coming to China 19:06 Adventures in Sanya during the chaotic years 21:57 "Hong Kong is like a miniature Earth" 27:23 Losing a camera in Shanghai and appearing in the "Liberation Daily" 31:31 The huge advantages of foreigners in the early days of reform and opening up 37:54 Memories of the 1992 Olympic bid: a TV broadcast oolong 41:50 Laoqiang, Nuo Opera and the disappearance of traditional culture 46:09 Western hippies and Beijing Wangzhu "are not quite the same" 49:57 Beijing in Old An's eyes: "Everything is too harmonious" 51:18 Portrait of citizens in Dongdan Park in the 1990s 54:07 Virtual vs. reality, past vs. present: filming ideas for road trips -Special Planning- From 2005 to 2025, podcasts have blossomed from iTunes to the present. We and Apple Podcasts have witnessed the 20th anniversary of podcasts. Apple Podcasts is the original home of "Anyway.FM". You are welcome to check out the 20th anniversary special plan launched by Apple Podcasts on the Apple Podcasts App and webpage, which includes more stories and insights from creators, and a list of programs carefully selected by editors. You are also welcome to follow our program on Apple Podcasts. Click "Follow" in the upper right corner of the program page to receive our program updates instantly. In addition, on June 28 (Saturday at 3 pm), Cheng Yanliang will give an offline sharing at the TodayatApple event at the Apple Shanghai iapm store. In addition to the behind-the-scenes creation stories of this station, there will also be recording and creation winning secrets and unreleased program highlights. Shanghai listeners are welcome to participate! -Production Team- Sound Design hotair Program Coordination He Fang Program Operation Xiao Mili Program Production hualun Si Zhao Yo Logo Design Yang Wenji -Music- Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod -This program is produced by JustPod © 2025 Shanghai Hulu Network Technology Co., Ltd.- -Interaction Methods- Business Cooperation: [email protected] Weibo: @忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod WeChat Official Account: 忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下 Xiaohongshu: JustPod Atmosphere Group / 忽左忽右 Bilibili: 忽左忽右leftright Douyin: 忽左忽右

疯投圈第三期日本考察带给我们最大的收获是看到了银发经济的勃勃生机——到处都是朝气蓬勃的老年人。本期节目我们围绕在日本考察期间反复浮现在脑海中的这句话展开，讨论日本社会几个典型的银发经济案例及其背后的商业逻辑。银发经济不是关于养老，而是关于优雅、体面、有意义地生活;日本的现状也不是终局，而是提前看到未来中国社会进入老龄化时代后的一面镜子。 * 为什么日本的老年人看起来比实际岁数更年轻？ * 年功序列制与养老金制度如何支撑日本银发族的消费？ * 为什么我们更关注「活力银发」而非「照护白发」？ * 中国的银发经济应该重点关注哪些具体人群？ * 东京迪士尼如何通过产品与运营创新吸引大量中老年游客？它利润率最高的项目是什么？ * 专注于中老年女性的Curves连锁健身房如何将“流水线健身”做成上市公司？ * 银发人群的三大核心需求：情感、财富、健康 日本考察 疯投圈第四期日本考察将专注于银发经济这一核心主题。微信搜索「疯投圈」服务号并发送关键词「日本」了解详情和咨询报名。 会员社群 疯投圈开设有会员社群，在这里您可以结识志同道合的朋友、发现业务合作的伙伴。每年我们会在北京、上海、深圳、广州四个城市举办仅限会员参加的线下活动，其他城市也会不定期举行小型的会员聚餐、聚会。通过面对面的交流,您可以与其他会员进一步加深了解、促成合作。 会员还可以阅读由疯投圈播客节目内容重新人工整理编辑而成的《疯投圈文字精选》，适合阅读习惯，方便查询检索节目中提到的图表、数据、观点、结论。 微信搜索关注「疯投圈」服务号并发送关键词「会员」了解详情和加入社群。 商务合作 商务合作与广告咨询请微信搜索关注「疯投圈」服务号并发送关键词「合作」。

Story FM ❜ Episode 847 In the dead of night, do you ever think of the secrets buried deep in your heart? Maybe it's an irreparable regret from your youth, maybe it's a truth that overturned your understanding at some point, or maybe it's just a simple but heavy "I'm sorry" that was never spoken... Story FM often receives submissions from listeners. I've found that many people submit to Story FM because they want to tell a secret of their own, a hidden experience. These contributors don't want the people around them to know, but they hope someone can hear it. Because the longer a secret is buried in the heart, the heavier it becomes, until it's too heavy for one person to bear. Only at the moment it's spoken can the burden be lifted and a sigh of relief be taken. Today, three contributors have decided to push open that door in their hearts and tell you the secrets they've been holding back for years. If you listen to their stories and you also have a secret you'd like to share on the show, you're welcome to find the submission link in the menu of the WeChat official account Story FM and submit it to us. Secret 1: My dad beat my mom to death. Secret 2: I only have one testicle. Secret 3: I had two extramarital affairs that lasted for more than ten years. /Staff/ Narrators | Miya Xiaoli Ben Host | @StoryFM Aizhe Interview | @StoryFM Aizhe Production | Yu Keyi Sound Design | Wang Lue Operation | Mingming Use your voice to tell your story. Story FM is a sound program of personal accounts. Business cooperation: [email protected] WeChat Official Account: Story FM (ID: story_fm) Sina Weibo: @StoryFM_StoryFM Personal WeChat Account: gushi_fm02

- 导语 -2025年6月9日，经典间谍小说《豺狼的日子》原著作者弗雷德里克·福赛斯在伦敦逝世，享年86岁。他的一生和小说一样传奇：19岁任英国皇家空军战斗机飞行员，退役后成为路透社战地记者，并深入战火前线。晚年他在自传中透露，他曾以双重身份为英国军情六处秘密服务20年。然而，痛恨英国政府的福赛斯，为何选择为军情六处服务？在东德，福赛斯经历了哪些惊奇和有趣的情报故事？与勒卡雷等其他间谍小说作家相比，福赛斯的作品显露出怎样的独特价值观？请听本期嘉宾郑诗亮、沙青青带来的精彩分享！- 本期话题成员 -程衍樑（微博@GrenadierGuard2）郑诗亮，《上海书评》执行主编（微博@PomBom，豆瓣ID：PomBom）沙青青（微信公众号：13号埋立地）- 时间轴 -07:31 「把自己作为方法」：一位小说家的记者和间谍生涯09:50 「没有福赛斯，汤姆·克兰西会存在吗？」14:09 父亲时代留下的烙印与早年经历22:06 观察与抽离：细节控福赛斯的写作修养25:45 尼日利亚内战改变了福赛斯的创作生涯27:21 对BBC回避真相不满，选择服务军情六处33:34 将间谍生涯写入小说：福赛斯的工作「回报」38:58 传记里的细节，生动还原了斯塔西统治下的东德44:17 一段与捷共秘密警察的罗曼史54:03 自述因为与东德国防部长情妇有染，最终出逃东德55:50 为写「非洲小国政变指南」，假冒政变策划者与军火商01:04:33 以牙还牙：从《老兵》看福赛斯式的正邪价值观01:08:25 相比勒卡雷的虚无主义，福赛斯对正义永远是坚定的01:11:10 缅怀旧时代，却又有希望：《谍海生涯》主角的独特魅力- 制作团队 -声音设计 hotair节目统筹 禾放节目运营 小米粒节目制作 hualun 思钊 Yologo设计 杨文骥- 音乐 -Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod- 本节目由JustPod出品 © 2025 上海斛律网络科技有限公司 -- 互动方式 -商务合作：[email protected]微博：@忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod微信公众号：忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下小红书：JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右B站：忽左忽右leftright抖音：忽左忽右

- Introduction - On June 9, 2025, Frederick Forsyth, the original author of the classic spy novel "The Day of the Jackal," passed away in London at the age of 86. His life was as legendary as his novels: at 19, he was a fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force, and after retiring, he became a war correspondent for Reuters, delving into the front lines of war. In his later years, he revealed in his autobiography that he had secretly served British MI6 in a dual capacity for 20 years. However, why did Forsyth, who hated the British government, choose to serve MI6? What amazing and interesting intelligence stories did Forsyth experience in East Germany? Compared with other spy novelists such as le Carré, what unique values ​​does Forsyth's work reveal? Listen to the wonderful sharing from this issue's guests Zheng Shiliang and Sha Qingqing! - Topic Members - Cheng Yanliang (Weibo @GrenadierGuard2) Zheng Shiliang, Executive Editor of "Shanghai Book Review" (Weibo @PomBom, Douban ID: PomBom) Sha Qingqing (WeChat Official Account: No. 13 Landfill) - Timeline - 07:31 "Using Yourself as a Method": A Novelist's Career as a Journalist and Spy 09:50 "Would Tom Clancy Exist Without Forsyth?" 14:09 The Imprint Left by the Father's Era and Early Experiences 22:06 Observation and Detachment: Forsyth's Writing Cultivation as a Detail Control 25:45 The Nigerian Civil War Changed Forsyth's Creative Career 27:21 Dissatisfied with the BBC's Avoidance of the Truth, Choosing to Serve MI6 33:34 Writing a Spy Career into a Novel: Forsyth's Work "Returns" 38:58 Details in the Biography Vividly Restore East Germany Under Stasi Rule 44:17 A Romance with a Czech Communist Secret Police Officer 54:03 Claiming to Have Had an Affair with the Mistress of the East German Minister of Defense, Finally Escaping East Germany 55:50 To Write "A Guide to Coups in Small African Countries," Impersonating a Coup Planner and Arms Dealer 01:04:33 Tit for Tat: Looking at Forsyth's Values ​​of Good and Evil from "The Veteran" 01:08:25 Compared to le Carré's Nihilism, Forsyth's Commitment to Justice is Always Firm 01:11:10 Nostalgia for the Old Era, Yet Hopeful: The Unique Charm of the Protagonist in "Avenger" - Production Team - Sound Design hotair Program Coordinator He Fang Program Operation Xiaomili Program Production hualun Sizhao Yo Logo Design Yang Wenji - Music - Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod - This program is produced by JustPod © 2025 Shanghai Huli Network Technology Co., Ltd. - - Interaction - Business Cooperation: [email protected] Weibo: @忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod WeChat Official Account: 忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下 Xiaohongshu: JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右 Bilibili: 忽左忽右leftright Douyin: 忽左忽右

-The person chatting- Phil Chang (ID: @Phil Chang) -Timeline- 01:35 What spy cases did Yoon Seok-yeol talk about? 05:29 Democratic Labor Confederation spy case 09:50 Jeju spy ring, Changwon spy ring, Cheongju spy ring 18:20 Moon Jae-in suppressed spy case investigations 21:16 Hacker group Lazarus hacks into the South Korean court system 23:40 Hacker group Kimsuky disguises phishing 28:15 Unification Progressive Party dissolution incident 40:00 Sunshine Policy: Fable of the North Wind and the Sun 44:00 Kim Dae-jung era: 300 million bought a ticket 47:00 Roh Moo-hyun era: The whereabouts of supplies are a mystery 50:20 Lee Myung-bak - Park Geun-hye: Geumgangsan Tourist Resort - Kaesong Industrial Park revamped 54:05 Moon Jae-in era: Final nuclear armament 1:00:20 Dilemma of the Sunshine Policy 1: Betrayal of passers-by 1:03:16 Dilemma of the Sunshine Policy 2: Oversimplification of reality 1:04:48 Dilemma of the Sunshine Policy 3: Security issues can only be guaranteed by oneself 1:08:48 Dilemma of the Sunshine Policy 4: South Korea's democratic system leads to a lack of consistent North Korea policy 1:17:11 What is the difference between Lee Jae-myung's "pragmatic diplomacy" and Yoon Seok-yeol's "value diplomacy"? 1:25:19 Lee Jae-myung and Ssangbangwool Group's remittance incident to North Korea 1:29:50 Three major aides to North Korea policy 1: National Security Office Director Wei Shenglu, 1:33:30 Three major aides to North Korea policy 2: Director of the National Intelligence Service Lee Jong-seok 1:34:34 Three major aides to North Korea policy 3: Minister of Unification Jeong Dong-young -Some information- June 15, 2000, Kim Dae-jung and the second-generation leader of North Korea issued the "615 Joint Declaration" in Pyongyang after the summit (Image source: Yonhap News Agency) October 4, 2007, Roh Moo-hyun and the second-generation leader of North Korea issued the "Declaration on the Development of Inter-Korean Relations and Peace and Prosperity" in Pyongyang after the summit (Image source: Roh Moo-hyun Foundation) June 15, 2005, Jeong Dong-young visited Pyongyang as President Roh Moo-hyun's special envoy to hold talks with the second-generation leader of North Korea (Image source: 통일뉴스) June 2005, Lee Jae-myung, who held no official position, followed his elder brother Jeong Dong-young to Pyongyang as a civilian (Image source: Lee Jae-myung's blog) June 16, 2020, the Inter-Korean Liaison Office located in Kaesong, North Korea was blown up (Image source: KCNA/Yonhap News Agency) -Editing- Phil Chang -Production·Production- Phil Chang -Listeners group- If the QR code expires, please check whether the QR code at the bottom of the latest issue of the main text is the latest, or send a private message to Phil Chang's Xiaohongshu or Douyin (ID: Phil Chang) to add a listeners group *This program welcomes more interesting and high-quality content. Friends with relevant experience and interest can join the listeners group and contact Phil Chang. "Zhengwen Santai" looks forward to your sharing!

今天继续《商业访谈录》的机器人专场，嘉宾是北京大学助理教授、银河通用创始人兼CTO王鹤。 王鹤毕业于清华和斯坦福大学。**他给我们从“具身智能”的学术缘起开始聊起，这是一个学术流派从一个学科中萌芽到边缘再到主流渗透的全过程。** 而随着ChatGPT诞生，“具身智能”这个小众概念，在过去2年成了新的资本宠儿——**但一时间，也带来了新的乱象。** 我们探讨了一些具身智能产业界关键问题： 1/具身智能起源于计算机视觉的学术流派，视觉、语言、智能的关系是什么？为什么VLM（视觉语言模型）的表现显著弱于LLM（大语言模型）？ 2/具身智能的最大困境之一是数据采集，合成数据是正解吗？具体应该怎么做？ 3/如果大模型提倡的是“智能即产品”，那么具身智能呢？王鹤的回答是“生产力即产品”。 去年底，英伟达创始人黄仁勋来华访问。答谢宴上，王鹤不仅和黄仁勋同桌，而且就在做黄仁勋旁边（挨着坐）。在节目最后，我们也聊了聊这个有趣的插曲——他提到，**那晚黄仁勋吃了不少水煮肉片。** 2025，我们和AI共同进步！ 我们的播客节目在腾讯新闻首发，大家可以前往关注哦，这样可以第一时间获取节目信息和更多新闻资讯：） 03:00 开始的自问自答 **05:58 语言不是智能的本质，而是“一次跃变”** “具身智能”和“机器人”是不同学术流派 **“具身智能”起源于“计算机视觉”的研究流派** 视觉有智能吗？纯视觉智能的可解释性差，是端到端的 语言不是智能的本质，不能说没有语言就没有智能 **智能的本质是什么？“一种视情况对环境做出反应的能力”** 语言是人类能产生这么高智能的“一次跃变” 视觉的本质是一种非常强的sensor（传感器） **25:08 具身智能的学术边缘史** 具身智能最早兴起的task（任务）是，导航 **加入视觉模态，强调Perception–Action Loop（感知-动作循环），成为具身智能研究流派能立起来的核心叙事** 标志性事件：“具身智能是计算机视觉未来的三颗北极星之一”（李飞飞） 我和Skild创始人Deepak Pathak在Facebook人工智能实验室FAIR打过交道 **41:15 我的学术之路** 2016年，博士第一个项目：从人类视频里学多步的人与物体交互过程的生成（动画领域） 在Stanford博士第一年，在不喜欢的方向非常挣扎，后来换组、换方向 **Stanford是高度自由的市场：你可以随时踢你老板，你老板可以随时踢你** 第一篇论文憋了很久，很绝望 完全从视频中学习，学习世界模型，还没成为当下能推进具身智能的技术 我的第二个项目：位姿估计和合成数据相关 2020年李开复曾在湾区丽思卡尔顿组织brunch，观点分歧 回国坚定以家庭机器人为目标推进research，根本没有allies（盟军） **01:25:08 具身智能的软件和硬件是螺旋上升的问题** ChatGPT火了以后，很多人开始找我创业，我说创不了 所有工业机械臂在去年的全球总产值才1000亿RMB，和理想一家车企产值相当 如果采取不成熟的激进的硬件方案，对智能会是一种拖累 在这个硬件基础上，我们的方案是，做相对专用的智能和越来越通用的智能 **VLM为什么显著弱于LLM？**互联网视觉数据/所有人眼观测的覆盖〈〈〈互联网文字数据/人类所有说的话的覆盖（VLM数据不够，VLA的Action数据是最近两年才开始收集的） **01:44:34 我们要避免陷入以下泥潭** 这一代具身智能公司相比此前机器人公司，差异在哪？ 在我看来，具身智能公司如果陷入以下两个泥潭，天花板会很有限： 1、“长期漂浮”的公司；2、“算不过来账”的公司，边际成本不降 我们要做一个应用场景内的泛化（现在选择的是货架场景） 在我看来，机器人领域的头部效应很重 **01:55:17 具身智能是，“生产力即产品”** 雇人摇操采真实数据的成本到底有多高？一笔经济账 真实数据在我们训练数据的比重是1%，合成数据管线挑起大梁 行业内的tricky现象：把没有功能的机器人卖给别人（这是一种商业模式） 关于合成数据和Sim-to-Real（仿真到现实迁移）的常见误区 有出货量后的数据回流和数据飞轮 **如果大模型是“智能即产品”，那么具身智能就是“生产力即产品”** **02:13:51 资本轰炸后的人为乱象** 谁在创造生产力，谁在讲故事，这是最乱的——这个源自美国 对Figure的估值400亿美元的两种逻辑 有的人胆子很大，不告诉别人我是摇操，但实际摇操 **呼吁：真实展示！不要摇操！** 5年内我们一定要有万台以上的应用，如果做不到这个，我们这个领域就被证伪了！ 不要去搞一些砸我们行业招牌的事情！这些模式是很可怕的，是在砸这个行业的饭碗 通用机器人的到来不要想得那么快 **02:25:25 一个插曲** **去年黄仁勋访华为什么和黄仁勋同桌且在旁边？聊了什么？** 黄仁勋能吃辣，吃了很多水煮肉片 02:28:26 最后的快问快答 【机器人专场】 逐篇讲解机器人基座模型和VLA经典论文——“人就是最智能的VLA” 【更多信息】 联络我们：微博@张小珺-Benita 更多信息欢迎关注公众号：张小珺

We recently solicited stories from listeners about "feeling anxious about class solidification" and received many letters. This episode is the first, with guests Mr. Zhao, 38, and Mr. Liu, who is almost 50. They, who did not attend university, experienced a little of the economic boom at different stages when they were young. However, after the epidemic, the overall social economy has been in a slump, the real estate industry has been in turmoil, the labor market has been sluggish, and especially the jobs for older workers have decreased, and they have all begun to feel a sense of stagnation or even regression. Mr. Zhao is from a rural area in Shanxi. He used to be an underground miner. Later, he drifted north and worked as an extra, real estate agent, and loan business in Beijing. He used to have a considerable monthly income, but in the past two years, his income has been almost zero due to the decline of the industry. Mr. Liu used to work in engineering construction in a large state-owned enterprise in Northeast China. He personally experienced the wave of layoffs in the 1990s, and later worked all over the country. At nearly 50 years old, he faces a life of being owed wages, difficulty finding work, and no place to retire. In this episode, we will hear the stories of ordinary workers and their different feelings about "social mobility" and "class solidification." Text version: https://bit.ly/bmb-156-text Timeline: 01:34 Mr. Zhao is from a rural area in Shanxi, and his father is a coal miner in a black coal mine. 02:32 The first job at the age of 18, a gas worker in a coal mine, with a harsh underground environment 06:24 Resigned and drifted north, going to Beijing with a performance dream 07:21 Studied acting at the Central Academy of Drama and worked as an extra 09:08 Switched to being a real estate agent, "feeling very decent to make money" 11:18 Switched to being a loan agent, earning 100,000 yuan a month at its peak 12:28 After 2024, business decreased and income plummeted 14:19 Considered delivering food and returning to work in coal mines 15:41 "Unable to rise, and difficult to sink" 18:35 If there are children, I hope they have a good environment and a good personality. 21:10 Thinking about whether to leave Beijing 22:24 Mr. Liu: Writing from a hot rental house 23:32 When he was young, he was an employee of a state-owned enterprise. He originally hoped to live a stable life in the state-owned enterprise until retirement. 24:42 Laid off from state-owned enterprises, went out to work 26:17 During the epidemic, the project was suspended and he lay flat at home for a year. 28:03 Comparing the "layoff wave" with the present: I was confident in finding a job back then, but now I am more pessimistic. 29:27 Employment deteriorated after the epidemic, "feeling of powerlessness" 31:32 Expectations for children: "In short, if you want to be a beast of burden, it is better to be a beast of burden abroad." 39:21 Owed five months of wages, no savings, and no place to retire Related links: EP-115 How is China's college employment data falsified? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

- 导语 -南亚战火重燃，印控克什米尔恐袭事件引发了印巴两国间一系列军事冲突，空战以外，国际舆论成为博弈新战场。在莫迪塑造的新闻生态下，假消息何以在“家族群”泛滥？不只民众，印度精英的复古思想在近年产生了什么转向？回溯历史，印巴两国军队如何继承并分化了英印军队的“战斗民族”遗产？印巴分治的政治余波何以在今天的南亚继续发挥地缘作用？请听本期嘉宾qiran带来的精彩分享！- 本期话题成员 -程衍樑（微博@GrenadierGuard2）qiran，国际新闻记者，自由撰稿人- 时间轴 -05:37 印度空战吃瘪，导弹与无人机仍给巴方一定压力16:19 克什米尔「正常化」背后的假象24:26 不止印度，巴基斯坦也派出了海外「宣讲团」27:53 从大媒体到WhatsApp家族群：印度假新闻生态32:53 「为了向印度卖飞机，中美共编假新闻」32:35 德里书店见闻：愈演愈烈的婆罗多宗教思潮39:42 阵风战机采购弊案掀出印法高层利益输送丑闻50:58 印度文官系统的低效率腐败55:00 英印军队内部的「战斗民族传统」在印巴走向不同道路01:05:42 巴基斯坦：建立在旧英印军队上的国家？01:10:13 巴基斯坦困局：继承1/3的力量以应付英印帝国全部西北防线01:14:26 真纳的「两个民族」设想与仓促的「印巴分治」01:26:04 孟巴分裂：「成也孟加拉，败也孟加拉」01:36:12 「阿富汗危机」是「印巴分治」的溢出效应01:38:55 代理人不能完全解释印巴间的恐袭问题01:45:44 强硬派莫迪上台，反而为巴基斯坦「两国论」提供合法性01:51:27 不同于冷战，印巴间核平衡更依赖战术与第三方协调01:59:36 「可以接受局部核战，但最好不要总体战」：战争受害者对战争的新看法- 制作团队 -声音设计 hotair节目统筹 禾放节目运营 小米粒节目制作 hualun 思钊 Yologo设计 杨文骥- 音乐 -Danse Macabre - Busy Strings - Kevin MacLeod- 本节目由JustPod出品 © 2025 上海斛律网络科技有限公司 -- 互动方式 -商务合作：[email protected]微博：@忽左忽右leftright @播客一下 @JustPod微信公众号：忽左忽右Leftright / JustPod / 播客一下小红书：JustPod气氛组 / 忽左忽右B站：忽左忽右leftright抖音：忽左忽右

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《商业访谈录》 has interviewed many CEOs and senior executives of Chinese new energy vehicle companies. Today's guest is Wang Xin, head of autonomous driving and connected car R&D at Mercedes-Benz China, a century-old German car company. We talked about the 20-year transformation of China's auto industry, and the transformation and secret stories of a German car company. Our podcast is first released on Tencent News, so you can follow it to get the latest program information and more news :) **Major Industrial Transformation** 01:25 20 years ago, even Bird mobile phones made cars 07:54 I used to work at automotive Tier 1 Delphi for 18 years, and joined Mercedes-Benz 3 years ago, which is behind a major industrial transformation 09:30 Several technology cycles in the global auto industry in the past 20 years (before 2004, 2004-2014, 2014-2020, 2020-present) 11:31 Now it has transformed into a data-driven era, and the era of Tier 1 black box delivery is over **Right to Speak** 27:40 Is the right to speak of the Chinese team and the German headquarters fought for? 28:27 Mercedes-Benz China R&D team organizational structure, communication mechanism and battle 34:08 The battle culture of German companies is different from that of American companies 41:23 What processes are required when features designed and produced for China are exported globally? **New Technology** 43:21 Intelligentization is an irreversible trend, but it should not be radical 46:50 Vehicle-to-vehicle communication needs to be redefined after L3 is achieved 51:54 The relationship between technology and luxury: if intelligence is equalized, has the standard of luxury changed? 01:01:49 The process of switching from rule-based algorithms to end-to-end last year was quite painful 01:04:40 LiDAR is a good redundancy 01:05:35 CLA and Baobao cooperate with large language models **139-year-old Car Company** 01:09:36 People-oriented 01:11:08 Safety steps 01:13:08 The world's first car driver was the wife of the founder of Mercedes-Benz 01:15:00 What is it like to work in a century-old company - what is glory? What is the burden? 01:17:48 Once-in-a-century transformation and major changes 01:33:22 Does Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius get angry? Related episodes: Dialogue with Mercedes-Benz Global CEO Ola Källenius: CEO in Transition and 139-year-old Mercedes-Benz in Transition 【More Information】 Contact us: Weibo @张小珺-Benita For more information, please follow the official account: 张小珺

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